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Accountability | Diania Merriam
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Episode Summary:

Diana Merriam shares her transformative journey from seeking traditional success as the world's highest-paid female CEO to embracing a life centered on financial independence and community. Initially burdened by $30,000 in debt, Diana\u2019s discovery of the FIRE movement shifted her perspective. She highlights the importance of accountability groups, particularly her participation in the Reputable Women's Development Club, where members supported each other's goals. Diana reflects on how her experiences on the Camino pilgrimage deepened her understanding of identity beyond career accomplishments, emphasizing values such as relationships and personal fulfillment. Now, motivated by her newfound mindset, she is organizing the EconoMe Conference to promote financial independence, hoping to inspire others with uncertain futures. This pivotal shift illustrates the importance of community and resourcefulness in achieving true wealth.

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Episode Show Notes for ChooseFI Podcast: Interview with Diana Merriam

Episode Summary: Diana Merriam shares her transformative journey from aspiring to be the world's highest-paid female CEO to embracing a balanced life focused on relationships, community, and financial independence. Reflecting on past debt and mindless spending in her 20s, Diana recounts how joining an accountability group shifted her mindset from conventional societal goals to prioritizing peace of mind and meaningful connections. Her experience walking the Camino reinforced her belief in community and resourcefulness, leading to the creation of EconoMe, a conference aimed at making financial independence accessible to everyone. Diana emphasizes the importance of goal-setting, community support, and the significance of shifting one's perspective on success and wealth.

Timestamps and Discussion Highlights:

  • Podcast Intro:

  • Diana's Early Financial Story

    • Diana discusses her mindless financial habits in her 20s, leading to $30K in debt by her late 20s. She reflects on her poor financial choices, including taking out student loans unnecessarily.
  • The Importance of Accountability Groups

    • Diana describes joining an accountability group in New York, where members supported each other's financial and personal goals, emphasizing how accountability helped reshape her financial perspectives.
  • Transitioning Mindsets and Goals

    • Diana illustrates her shift from seeking status (as the highest-paid female CEO) to prioritizing meaningful relationships and personal happiness, recognizing her previous goals as immature.
  • The Camino Experience

    • Her journey on the Camino profoundly influenced her view on community and identity, emphasizing the shift away from defining herself by her career.
  • Community's Role in Financial Independence

    • Diana shares experiences of building community, both in NYC and Cincinnati, which played a crucial role in her journey to financial independence.
  • Creating the EconoMe Conference

    • Diana introduces EconoMe, a conference designed to make financial independence principles accessible, highlighting the significance of community interaction and support.
  • ChooseFI Hot Seat

    • Diana answers rapid-fire questions exploring her favorite resources, inflection points, financial mistakes, and life advice.

Key Takeaways:

  • Join an Accountability Group: Connecting with others can enhance your financial journey and help maintain commitment to your goals.
  • Shift Perspective on Success: Rethinking conventional definitions of success can lead to greater fulfillment and clarity in life goals.
  • Value Community: Building and engaging in community fosters support and motivation, crucial for achieving financial independence.

Actionable Items:

  • Form or join a local accountability group to focus on financial goals.
  • Attend community events related to financial independence to connect with like-minded individuals.

Key Quotes:

  • "I found myself in my late 20s at $30,000 in debt."
  • "Let your curiosity be bigger than your fear."
  • "Community in general is just so important."

Related Resources:

Discussion Questions:

  • How can shifting your perspective on money impact your financial journey?
  • What role does community play in achieving personal goals?
  • How can accountability groups enhance the success of members?

Podcast Description: Join Diana Merriam as she shares her life-changing experiences, transitioning from conventional career aspirations to embracing community and financial independence through serious mindset shifts.

Embracing Financial Independence: Lessons from Diana Merriam

Diana Merriam's transformative journey illustrates the profound impacts of community, mindset shifts, and personal accountability in the pursuit of financial independence. Through her experiences, we can glean valuable insights for reshaping our own paths toward financial freedom.

Finding Your Financial Story

Many people, including Diana, start with an unclear financial identity. Diana candidly reflected on her late 20s, where she found herself buried under $30,000 of debt. She recognized that her financial choices were often mindless, driven by societal expectations rather than personal values.

Actionable Insight: Begin to analyze your financial decisions. Ask yourself if they genuinely align with your values and long-term goals or if they merely reflect societal pressures. By doing so, you can begin charting a path toward a more conscious financial future.

The Power of Accountability Groups

Diana's journey took a pivotal turn when she joined an accountability group, engaging with others who shared similar ambitions of financial improvement. Being part of a community that checks in on progress fosters motivation and accountability, which can significantly enhance success.

Recommendation: Form or join an accountability group focused on financial goals. Regularly meet to discuss progress, setbacks, and strategies. Document your goals and revisit them periodically—it creates a framework that encourages accountability and enables tracking of growth.

Shifting Your Mindset on Success

Diana's aspiration to become the world’s highest-paid female CEO initially defined her ambition. However, she discovered that this goal stemmed from a desire for status rather than genuine fulfillment. Over time, her perspective shifted toward valuing peace of mind, relationships, and balance, which ultimately brought her greater satisfaction.

Takeaway: Reassess your definition of success. Consider what truly brings you happiness. It may be worth prioritizing relationships and well-being over traditional metrics of success, such as career status and financial gain.

Building a Community of Support

Community significantly impacts our financial journeys. During her time in New York, Diana fostered connections within her apartment complex, sharing resources and supporting each other's goals. This communal approach not only alleviated financial burdens but also built meaningful relationships.

Actionable Strategy: Actively seek and cultivate community around you. Share resources with neighbors and build connections that encourage support and accountability. Consider hosting events, which can nurture friendships while also creating a sustainable network of support.

Embracing Personal Growth through Experiences

Diana's experience walking the Camino, a 500-mile trek in Spain, profoundly influenced her identity. The journey stripped away her previous status-driven self-image, revealing the importance of human connections and personal growth.

Recommendation: Engage in experiences that challenge you personally, such as travel—especially solo travel or group adventures. Such experiences can reset your perspective on life’s essentials, helping you prioritize what truly matters.

Designing Your Path to Financial Independence

Diana not only embraced her journey but also sought to empower others by creating the EconoMe Conference. This event is designed to educate individuals about financial independence, providing them with tools and insights to navigate their financial paths.

Action Item: Attend events focused on financial independence or personal development. These gatherings not only provide education but also connect you with others on similar journeys, fostering a shared sense of purpose and direction.

Practical Steps to Financial Independence

As you begin your journey toward financial independence, consider the following actionable steps:

  1. Join an Accountability Group: Surround yourself with like-minded individuals focused on similar goals.
  2. Document Your Goals: Write down your financial aspirations and action steps.
  3. Shift Your Mindset: Reflect on what success means to you. Introduce a new definition that centers around fulfillment rather than societal status.
  4. Engage with Your Community: Find ways to share resources and support those around you.
  5. Seek Experiential Growth: Invest time in experiences that broaden your perspective and foster personal growth.

Conclusion

Diana Merriam’s journey highlights that financial independence is not simply about accumulating wealth; it encompasses mindset shifts, community support, and personal fulfillment. By reassessing our values and surrounding ourselves with supportive networks, we can carve our paths toward a more balanced and financially independent life.

Embrace these lessons and take actionable steps toward your financial independence today, knowing that you have the power to design a life that aligns with your true desires.

Diania Merriam discusses accountability, shifting perspectives, and community. She has a great perspective on building community and life with balance.

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Diania's Money Story

At an early point in Diania's life, she aspired to be the highest-paid female CEO. Since then, she has realized this is no longer her goal. It was a reflection of her belief that status was critically important.

You just kinda feel like you'll figure it out later, like 'Oh, I'm just getting started in my career. One day I'm going to make a ton of money and be the highest-paid female CEO and I'm not going to have to worry about all this stuff!' Right?! And so, I think that is kind of what put me into a position of getting myself into debt and not really paying attention to where my dollars were going.

In her 20s, she admits to somewhat mindless financial behavior. She felt that she would be able to figure out her finances later when she was earning more money. That attitude led to around $30,000 of debt in her late 20s.

Half of her debt was student loans. However, she had full scholarships to school, so she really didn't need to take out any student loans. She took out the loans because that is the trajectory that people expect. Although the money helped to fund a more comfortable student lifestyle, it wasn't really necessary.

The other half of her debt was credit card debt. She didn't have the mindset that debt was a bad thing because everyone in her life had debt.

Accountability

In her mid-20s, she joined an accountability group. A friend of Diania's started the 'Reputable Women's Development Club.' The group met once a month to review goals and get back to the "why" of those goals. Members would make an action plan for the upcoming month and report back on the goals for their next meeting.

Many of these women had similar goals to Diania's. Fitness, getting out of debt, and advancing in their careers were common within the group.

One of the ladies in the group stumbled across Mr. Money Mustache. She sent out the article about debt being an emergency to the group. Diania immediately devoured the entire blog and saw her mindset shift dramatically. Check out that article here.

I think that shift in mindset is what enabled me to change my habits and look at, not just money, but my resources in general in a different way. So the resources of time, your energy, your community. You know, we talk so much about money, but that's just one resource that we want to be careful in managing. You know, I think you've got to look at it as the whole picture.

Other resources such as time and community have their own values.

Systematic Documenting

The group held each other accountable by systematically documenting what each member said they wanted to do. To start, each stated five clear goals. At each meeting, they outlined three action steps that would get them closer to their goal. At the next meeting, they would report back to the group about what worked and what pivots needed to happen.

Documenting and then reporting helped keep accountability due to having to speak to what you said you were going to do.

Being around a group of encouraging women allowed Diania to pursue her goals with a support group of people attempting to achieve their own dreams.

Looking Back

Over the course of a year, the club worked together towards goals. The group members had a varied skill set that they used to help each other out. As everyone's lives changed, the group of ten disbanded slowly.

Diania says that the best part about the group is to look back on her ambitions. Her goal was to get out of $30,000 in debt and save $10,000. She was able to do it. It serves as a reminder that she has done hard things in the past and that she is able to do hard things in the future.

Her goal of being the highest-paid female CEO is no longer important to Diania. The importance of status, which fueled that goal, was the immaturity of perspective, what seemed important as a teenager. Now her goals have shifted to be relationship-based, especially since learning about FIRE and starting on the path to Financial Independence.

Her goals now are peace of mind, time, space, and relationships.

Corporate Career

Diania works in the field of brand extensions. She works out contracts between manufacturers and brands. Generally, the brand allows a manufacturer to use their name in exchange for a royalty. However, the negotiation table between the two can be challenging to navigate. Diania is able to successfully build partnerships between brands and manufacturers. She is really great at her job and her employer values her accordingly.

With respect at work, comes more responsibility. After a few years of working for this company, she found herself working at the expense of everything else. She thought that working the career ladder would bring her happiness but neglecting her health and relationships did not lead to happiness.

When she turned 30, she realized that something had to change. She felt that she had put all of her eggs into the career basket but was unsatisfied in other areas of her life. The company was rewarding her monetarily for the business she brought in, but she did not have time or freedom. After some reflection, she wanted to open up more time in her life to become a more well-rounded person.

What is better than money? In this instance, I didn't feel like I needed more money, I felt like I needed more time and freedom. Again, when you think about resourcefulness and what resources that you have at your disposal, I felt like I needed to open up a little bit more space in my life. And to focus on relationships, to focus on my health, to be, I guess, a more well-rounded person.

Unconventional Requests

With that, she found an opportunity to go to her employer. Instead of asking for a raise after a productive year of work, she asked for some unconventional requests. She asked to move to Cinncinatti for remote work and two months off (unpaid) to walk the Camino in Spain.

No one else in her company had ever asked for anything like this. Sabbaticals were unheard of because it is a fast-paced industry. However, she had been there for five years and proven her value to the company. Plus, she knew if they said no--she was prepared to do it anyway; even though she enjoyed the job. Cleaning up her financial life allowed her to be confident in her request to leave.

Listen: Negotiate Your Salary With Tori Dunlap

Life With Balance

After her employer agreed to her unconventional request, she took off to walk the Camino. It was a pivotal experience that helped to transform her identity. Before the Camino, her identity was very tied up with work. However, no one asked her about her work on the walk. Without the stress of daily life and work, she was able to tap into a deeper level of humanity that seemed clouded before.

She started to carry extra water to pass out to others. The simple way of life allowed her to tap into the way she thinks as a person without the pressure of regular life. For Diania, it was important to have this experience.

Now, her work identity and Camino trailblazer identity can coexist comfortably. She still produces quality work, but her mindset has shifted. She no longer puts so much pressure on herself when it comes to work stress. Although her employer views her performance the same, she is enjoying it much more.

Community

Whether on the Camino, in an accountability group, or just in the neighborhood, it is clear that Diania values community.

Convenience is the ultimate friendship builder.

In New York, her apartment building had 42 units. She made it a point to invite people over for dinner. Hosting dinner parties, sharing the internet, and helping out in other ways became a part of the building culture.

In Cincinnati, she shares her lawnmower with the neighbor. Plus, the neighbor keeps their chickens in her yard. Simply finding ways to help each other can go a long way.

If you want to share tools and services with your neighbor, then be helpful. Always extend the olive branch first through a dinner or other kindness. You can't just walk up to someone and ask to borrow their lawnmower. It needs to be more organic. When you have a spirit of sharing, you can make it a point to share which sets up a symbiotic dynamic.

EconoMe

Currently, Diania is working on hosting EconoMe. This will be an event that explores the new American dream with a series of speakers.

It is a one-day event held at the University of Cincinnati. In the morning and afternoon, there will be talks with a break in between. Plus, a showing of Playing with FIRE. After the talks, there will be a party downtown.

For Diania, this is a way to spread the message of FIRE. She stumbled across the movement by chance. She wants to help make this content more accessible for others that need it. Since blogs and podcasts seemed to have the information covered, she wanted to add a new twist that will allow people to interact with this content in a different way.

The EconoMe Conference will be held on March 7th, 2020. There is room for 700 people at EconoMe. If you are interested in checking it out, then head to the EconoMe Conference page. You'll be able to find out more about the event there. You can also find out more through the Facebook page @economeconference or the Facebook group, Fueling the FIRE. Early bird ticket sales run through the end of October, so grab your ticket today.

Check out the Friday round-up for this episode here.

Related: When A Normal Life Isn't Good Enough: Playing With FIRE Book Review

The Hot Seat

Favorite Blog, Podcast, or Book: Mr. Money Mustache

An Inflection Point: A moment on the Camino that showed her how life can turn on a dime. "The Camino strips you of your humor, and then hands it back to you."

She had been sleeping on a church floor but couldn't sleep so she got up to start walking.

When she reached the next town there was only one light on. The house with the light was setting up breakfast for other pilgrims so she asked to join. The man showed her where to sit down and asked her where she was from. She said the US, he just looked confused and said he didn't know where that was.

After a minute she caught on that it was a joke which snapped her right out of her bad mood. It shows that even when things feel really bad right now, things could change in a moment.

Favorite Life Hack: She has a roommate (AKA her gay husband). He helps her house hack, watches her dog, and helped her find her color--blue.

Biggest Financial Mistake: A piece of her credit card debt. She strung it along for so long because she valued liquidity over being debt-free. For many years she didn't see debt as a problem and always thought of savings as something she would do later. That absence of a goal did not motivate her to save for the future. FI is a more tangible goal in the intermediate future that has encouraged her to save.

The advice you would give your younger self: Let your curiosity be bigger than your fear.

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